From external fulfilment to inner fulfilment — listen to Erkin Bek on how it happened, making meditation real with science, and why it is the future of world health.
In this episode of Forum Radio, host Jessica Fellowes sits down with Erkin Bek, founder of All Here and the World Meditation League, to explore the science of meditation.
The discussion dives into what he calls the scientific bottom line of meditation: turning the invisible inner world into something scientifically observable and measurable.
That’s where the heart of Quantified Meditation lies: the objective assessment of how practitioners move toward deeper meditative states.
Meditation, as Erkin explains, is brain stimulation training. By repeatedly engaging the same brain networks, reducing mind-wandering, and strengthening self-attention networks, we actively build and preserve the cognitive abilities essential for overall mental well-being and long-term brain health.
The conversation also touches on longevity and attention in the digital age, where our focus is constantly stolen by the distraction economy.
Meditation, Erkin argues, “is the key to longevity, physical and mental well-being, and staying in shape over a lifetime.”
That’s why meditation should be pursued sooner rather than later: to keep the brain active, adaptive, and capable of going deeper.
With scientific methods and training, meditation becomes a performance — one whose achievements can be finally measured and visualized.
Listen to the full conversation and discover how science is making meditation real.
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